Tony Lewis, Summit Real Estate Santa Clarita & Aliso Viejo (RE/MAX of Valencia (Hall of Fame) 30 year Valencia Resident)

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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

No, I don't... using terms like self-serving and hateful does nothing to advance the cause of vaccinations. Virtually all vaccinations in our history have been a personal choice.  I don't know why those who have been vaccinated (as I have been) are going crazy over this issue. (I'm not). At the end of the day, I'm protected. If people who choose not to get vaccinated get sick and/or die, so be it... they made that decision. I have not time to waste my sympathy on them.

 

And let's not forget about people who already have natural immunity because they have had the virus or those who have underlying medical conditions that make the vaccine high risk for them. Are we calling them self-serving and hateful?

Jul 24, 2021 05:28 AM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

No. Each person just needs to take care of themselves and not worry about what other people do or believe.

Jul 24, 2021 05:27 AM
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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester

When you have all the "EXPERTS" changing their opinions depending on which way the wind is blowing it becomes difficult for some to make that decision.

Soon the government will tell everyone when they may exhale!

Jul 24, 2021 04:34 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Walmart Greeter: Have you been vaccinated?

Me: Do you particularly enjoy rough sex?

Walmart Greeter: EXCUSE ME?

Me: Well, since we're talking about stuff that's NO ONE'S EFFIN BUSINESS . . .

 

I am in favor of INDIVIDUALS, not lawmakers making THEIR OWN decisions for their health. 

You are ever inappropriate is my humble opinion. Let's see how fast this is taken down after I report it!

Jul 24, 2021 06:23 AM
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Kathy Streib
Room Service Home Staging - Delray Beach, FL
Home Stager - Palm Beach County,FL -561-914-6224

I found your comment to be exactly what the problem is now in this country. We can't point fingers or take sides. If I wanted to live in a country that told me what to do and say, I could move to that island off the coast of South Florida. 

Jul 24, 2021 10:12 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

No.  How about we stop focusing on "vaccinations" and focus on who and what lead this virus to be transmissable to humans and for it to spread worldwide unchecked for months before locking Wuhan down...  Let's focus on why Fauci's NIH redefined the Gain of Function research at the Wuhan lab so it didn't need to go through internal oversight.

 

Let's focus on what ACTUALLY MATTERS, holding Xi Jinping, Fauci and the NIH responsible for their actions (or lack thereof).

Jul 24, 2021 09:20 AM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

A government mandate that all should be vaccinated is not the solution.

Jul 24, 2021 06:18 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

I am vaccinated by choice.  Others should have the same option... a choice.

Jul 24, 2021 06:33 AM
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Reports (plural) received.  Letting it ride.  

No specific Community Guidelines violated.
Trolling?  Perhaps.
Burning referral bridges?  Probably.

Jul 24, 2021 07:51 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667, kat@thehousekat.com, Broker, eXp Realty - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

No.

Jul 24, 2021 05:00 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

That is how we eliminated small pox and polio, however in todays political climate I dont see something like that happening.

Jul 23, 2021 11:49 PM
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Shayne Stone
Champion Real Estate Group - Missouri City, TX
"Your Rock Solid Choice Realtor"

I'm waiting on my Primary Doctor to provide to me. So I can protect my privacy! 

I can care less what scientist think and/or government does - I trust neither... 

Jul 24, 2021 09:51 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Don't think it is possible in our current political climate. Do think everyone should seriously consider getting vaccinated.

Jul 24, 2021 04:19 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

 

 

HELL

 

 

NO

 

 

There are now 11,405 reported deaths from the COVID vaccine in the United States according to the latest numbers.

 

This is up from 11,140 total vaccine deaths last week.

 

And this was up from 9,125 reported deaths from the COVID-19 vaccinations total from the previous week.

 

Jul 24, 2021 08:40 AM
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Don Baker
Lane Realty - Eatonton, GA
Lake Sinclair Specialist

No legal mandates can be made except by private businesses until such time as the vaccine is fully approved by the FDA, that hasn't happened yet.

That being said, it's foolish not to be vaccinated that this point in my opinion.

Jul 24, 2021 08:20 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

This is America, not a Socialist Government that keeps its people on a leach

Jul 24, 2021 07:43 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

When we all have the same opportunities, perks, advancements, rights, welfare, necessities, safety, shelter, access, healthcare, and so much more then I am open to come what may...even more so. Right now, the mixed messaging, ignorance, hypocrisy, lack of common sense, faith, brotherly love, power grabs, emotional rhetoric, and the complete lack of honesty, transparency and closure keeps me in charge for me and my own 100%. I am reminded of this: America, life, and planet earth if properly stewarded would be a paradise. The many problems that exist today are not only solvable but deliberate in their existence. Physician....heal thyself

Jul 24, 2021 06:15 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I just wish everyone would go in and get vaccinated, but should not be mandated.

Jul 24, 2021 05:55 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Tony

I agree with Nina Hollander, Broker , as well as many others who share similar views.  We have the freedom of choice.  A

Jul 24, 2021 09:19 PM
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate - St. George, UT
So Utah Residential, Referral & Relocation REALTOR

Hateful and self-serving? Sounds like the latest display U.S. Olympic women's soccer team! It's a choice Tony, just like boycotting them and Subway because the co-captain is their spokesperson and turning off the t.v.!

Jul 24, 2021 11:45 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

You are watching way too much TV.  

Jul 24, 2021 09:37 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

Doesn't matter what my opinion is. People are doing whatever they want, blaming it on everyone else.

Anyone else here have a scar on their left arm?

Jul 24, 2021 06:19 AM
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Doug Dawes
KW Evolution - Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

NO! The greater good is the preservation of an individual's Freedom. Along with a mandate comes "YOur Papers Pleeze!" How about a mandate when 100% of the doctors agree?

Jul 25, 2021 07:06 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

"It is hateful and self serving" 
When one states such an opinion, it makes it hard to get the real opinion of others This is the echo chamber syndrome, you only hear from agreeing voices..
A smarter approach is announcing that FREE shots will end on Aug 31, and vaccines will cost $160. The antivaxers have these choices:
1. get the FREE shot
2. prepare to pay 3 million for a double lung transplant. This could ruin your families finances..FOREVER and one's health will never fully recover for those hospitalized.
3. Know that covid IS going to get you. From those who are vaccinated (the vaccinated do get covid they just don't go the the hospital), and give covid to the antis.

Or the CDC, those guys who had the authority to shut down the economy of a nation, could simply compel the FDA to give the vaccine the stamp of apporval?
Failure to do so gives those who argue 'experimental' all the ammunition the need. And coupled with all the expert 'flip-flopping' and the "
It is hateful and self serving" argument loses some steam, except in the echo-chamber.
So what's the approval hold up?
"
It is hateful and self serving" hmmmm.

Jul 24, 2021 05:22 AM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
& Host of Postcards From Success Podcast

What Nina Hollander, Broker said.

Jul 25, 2021 09:08 AM
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Raymond Henson, eXp Realty
eXp Realty of California, Inc. (lic. #01878277) - Elk Grove, CA
Realtor

We are all adults, we all have had an opportunity to be vaccinated and we all can make our own choices.  To me, that is what makes our country great. 

Jul 25, 2021 07:52 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

Yes!

Jul 24, 2021 04:26 PM
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Tony Lewis
RE/MAX of Valencia (Hall of Fame) 30 year Valencia Resident - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Santa Clarita & Aliso Viejo

When I was in the U.S. Army they put a gun on both arms with all kinds of medicines, when I was in elementary school we took a polio sugar cube.  I think Americans are no longer interested in the greater good.  I am.

Jul 24, 2021 11:38 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

I am vaccinated and I made the decision based on my own choice.

I only have control over what I do.  

God Bless America. 

Jul 26, 2021 06:12 PM
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Ralph Gorgoglione
Maui Life Homes / Metro Life Homes - Kihei, HI
Hawaii and California Real Estate (310) 497-9407

What I feel so many people are missing here is that certain vaccinations are not a clear-cut "choice".

Choosing to get a Polio vaccine is more of a clear-cut choice.  Why?  Because your decision to not get one doesn't affect the well being of everyone else around you because POLIO IS NOT CONTAGIOUS.  

Other vaccines are a little bit more of a matter of choice because they are not AS contagious, but can be somewhat mitigated by refined activity like Hepatitis, measles, mumps, and sexually transmitted diseases.

But in this particular case we are talking about an AIRBORNE CONTAGION that is EXTREMELY potent from a transmission standpoint - especially now that we have developed variants that are 70 times as transmissable.

So in this respect, you have a duty as a citizen to not only think about your personal health, but how your choice affects the risks and health of everyone else around you.  The COVID vaccine is not simply a matter of personal choice.  It goes hand-in-hand with how your choice puts everyone else at risk, and how your choice affects how quickly we can get over this pandemic.

It's VERY much a communal choice, much like taxes.  Can we all choose to pay no taxes at all and live a libertarian life?  Of course.  But with that choice, there would be no roads, no bridges, no public schools, no public parks, no mass transportation - NOTHING good would come of that decision for our society in general.

We all live in SOCIETIES.  Sometimes decisions are hard, but nonetheless can't always be made from a "I am my own island" standpoint when you live in a SOCIETY in which you and everyone else has benefitted from.

Jul 26, 2021 02:56 PM
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Anna Banana Kruchten CRS, CRB, Phoenix Broker
HomeSmart Real Estate BR030809000 - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

No I would not.  People have choice in America and this is another choice to make.

Jul 25, 2021 11:12 AM
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Myrl Jeffcoat
GreatWest Realty - Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Real Estate Agent

I was one of the first to be vaccinated once it was open to my age group.  And, most of my entire family has been vaccinated.  That being said, I am against government mandates to be vaccinated. But, how would you feel being immune compromised, unable to take the vaccine, and then being hospitalized where some nurses, and health care workers had refused to take the vaccine, putting you at risk?

I do wish everyone would decide that the war is against this virus, not each other, and especially should not be a weapon for politicians to use against each other.

I remember when we had the polio vaccine come on the scene in 1955.  Fortunately, we had President Eisenhower who rallied the people as if we were going to war against a foreign invader.  Because of it, we no longer hear of polio.  Ditto for the small pox vaccine.  Unfortunately, we didn't have that luxury this time around, as the vaccine was seen as a political weapon to divide us, at a tremendous cost of life to our people!  

Jul 29, 2021 07:37 AM
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John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, MD, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, TN, TX, UT, VA, WV - Walnut Creek, CA
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What is needed for the greater good?

 

Careful down that slippery slope.

 

I AM in favor of ActiveRain Member Support keeping this nonsense off this site.  This is THE ONE PLACE where this shit isn't being shoved down our throats from every angle.  Can we please keep it that way?

Jul 27, 2021 08:00 PM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

No. However, some employers have issued mandates and more will so so in the future. 

Regardless of our personal opinions, we need to recognize that anti-vaccination messages can adversely impact business relationships, referrals and agent selections.

Today, Veterans Affairs became the first federal agency to mandate vaccines for its workforce. Employees must be vaccinated within eight weeks. 

Jul 26, 2021 08:58 AM